The conversation revolves around the confusion and challenges surrounding a new paid leave policy. Harvey highlights that employees have up to 90 days after starting leave to apply, posing a challenge for employers to track employee absences. Matt Gagnon agrees, noting that the application process is still undeveloped. Greg shares a personal anecdote from 1973 and criticizes the new policy as a costly and confusing disaster for businesses, particularly in Maine, which he suggests doesn’t care about business interests. Matt concurs, mentioning that many businesses were unaware of the changes and are struggling to comply.