The conversation centers on Janet Mills’ political career and her decision not to run for re-election. Matt criticizes Mills, calling her a “corrosive force” and a “terrible governor.” Despite her electoral successes, including two statewide wins as governor, Matt argues that Mills’ victories were influenced by favorable political climates and specific opponents. The discussion highlights Mills’ lack of electability in state legislative races and her unique path to becoming Attorney General in Maine. The speakers also note the impact of the Dobbs decision on Mills’ 2022 re-election campaign, which she won by 13 points against Paul LePage.